| Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) | |
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Dionys Inspirer of Madness
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 48 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Hume Main Job : Samurai Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 65 ZM : 16 ~ The Celestial Nexus PM : 8-3 ~ When Angels Fall AM : 22 ~ Shield of Diplomacy WotG : 15 ~ Crossroads of Time Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:55 pm | |
| In this second half of the announcement on job adjustments and additions planned for the April version update, we present to you a delectable array of changes that are bound to change the way you buff and summon! Feast your eyes on the details here. information gathered from http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml | |
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Lenoxs Even Match
Number of posts : 322 Age : 39 Nation's Flag : Rank : 6 Race : Elvaan Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : Ninja Main Craft : Smithing Main Craft Level : 23 ZM : 1 ~ The New Frontier PM : 2-2 ~ The Lost City AM : 5 ~ Confessions of Royalty WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-08-27
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:32 pm | |
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Galen CE Videographer
Number of posts : 360 Age : 40 Nation's Flag : Rank : 3 Main Job : Beastmaster Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : None Registration date : 2007-09-04
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:44 pm | |
| I cant help but feel sorry for Rdm and Smn in comparison to what Whm got. Very nice and all something new can only be a bonus but it does look like they got the consolation prize. | |
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Roddick Tough
Number of posts : 458 Age : 49 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 13 ~ Lost Kingdom WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-14
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:09 am | |
| ummm Len...are you on something, giving us level 2 en spells (unless they add some crazy damage) and one other thing sucks ass. I am really disappointed. | |
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Lenoxs Even Match
Number of posts : 322 Age : 39 Nation's Flag : Rank : 6 Race : Elvaan Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : Ninja Main Craft : Smithing Main Craft Level : 23 ZM : 1 ~ The New Frontier PM : 2-2 ~ The Lost City AM : 5 ~ Confessions of Royalty WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-08-27
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:40 am | |
| why do they suck? with the new en spells they increase dmg for ever successful hit and etc. and the new job ability increase the effect and duration of the next spell casted on ones self and others, like stoneskin and cures. i like the idea of that. but as the saying goes, "To each there own." | |
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Galen CE Videographer
Number of posts : 360 Age : 40 Nation's Flag : Rank : 3 Main Job : Beastmaster Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : None Registration date : 2007-09-04
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| I bet they will have awful proc rates though. Allthough it will make solo play fun I'm guessing. | |
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Roddick Tough
Number of posts : 458 Age : 49 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 13 ~ Lost Kingdom WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-14
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:07 pm | |
| it just doesn't really feel like they are doing that much for rdm to me. Especially considering what they gave SCH when they created it. They get level IV nukes and still get things like reraise and all that, plus the accession thing where they can cast on everyone. I just would have liked to see them vamp up RDM a little more was all I was saying. | |
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Roddick Tough
Number of posts : 458 Age : 49 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 13 ~ Lost Kingdom WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-14
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:10 pm | |
| oh and I meant to add, the EN2 spells are nice, but probably completely useless in a party where everyone expects the rdm to be a healer not melee, so that addition pretty much only applies to soloing. | |
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Galen CE Videographer
Number of posts : 360 Age : 40 Nation's Flag : Rank : 3 Main Job : Beastmaster Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : None Registration date : 2007-09-04
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:17 pm | |
| My friend Aksannyi said allthough it's nice what they get, Rdm is a jack of all trades but master of none but they do excell at Enfeebling, She said that it would of been better to have their own way of landing some enfeebles better rather than relying on ES from a subjob to get some enfeebles to land on mobs in endgame that have particularly high resisitance. I bet the Enhancing sword price will skyrocket it currently is 1,900,000gil and I imagine it will fly up even more same with reraise scrolls I see them having a bit of a raise "no pun intended" But still it's better than a slap in the face I guess at least they have gotten something. My Rdm is 20 so personally have no experience with the job. I didnt get the enspell because at the time there was none on the AH. But I'm curious about the JA coming up especially with Haste and Refresh it will be nice to see how they work under it's influence. | |
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Nosveratu Tough
Number of posts : 369 Age : 43 Nation's Flag : Rank : 7 Race : Hume Main Job : Paladin Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : None ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 2-2 ~ The Lost City AM : 3 ~ President Salaheem WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:11 am | |
| i'm gonna reserve judgement XD i wanna see what they DONT do with PLD lmao before i say anything about RDM or SMN XD but i do aggree, that WHM seem to have the "creme of the crop" so far in the upcomming update | |
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Lunaura Linkshell Leader
Number of posts : 1097 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 8 Race : Elvaan Main Job : White Mage Sub Job : Summoner Main Craft : Cooking ZM : 7 ~ The Chamber of Oracles PM : 4-3 ~ The Secrets of Worship AM : 23 ~ Social Graces WotG : 4 ~ The Queen of the Dance Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:17 am | |
| Because whm has basically been abandoned through out many of the past updates. Many people werent playing it.. REAL healers harder to find.. what better way to make people WANT to play it is to make a HUGE change that they have played up for years. This was hinted to happen when they revamped alot of jobs way back before WoTG. but when it came time to update WHM got shafted and then SE was left to wonder why no one wants to play WHM. | |
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Galen CE Videographer
Number of posts : 360 Age : 40 Nation's Flag : Rank : 3 Main Job : Beastmaster Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : None Registration date : 2007-09-04
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:24 pm | |
| Wow Atomos, Alexander and Odin for SMN. I think Summoners everywhere just came! Lol I'm typing too fast for myself. Anyways ..... Apart from that where is our anual FFXI shutting down? It's April 1st right? I'll Be handing Smn a tissue lol | |
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Dionys Inspirer of Madness
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 48 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Hume Main Job : Samurai Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 65 ZM : 16 ~ The Celestial Nexus PM : 8-3 ~ When Angels Fall AM : 22 ~ Shield of Diplomacy WotG : 15 ~ Crossroads of Time Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:41 pm | |
| - Galen wrote:
- Wow Atomos, Alexander and Odin for SMN. I think Summoners everywhere just came!
Lol I'm typing too fast for myself. Anyways ..... Apart from that where is our anual FFXI shutting down? It's April 1st right? I'll Be handing Smn a tissue lol i'm not even sure HOW you posted this reply to the wrong thread in the entirely wrong month category ... you are truly remarkable for that. (please refer to Second and Third Expansion Scenarios Ahead of Schedule! (04/01/2009) to see what the hell galen is referring to.) | |
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Galen CE Videographer
Number of posts : 360 Age : 40 Nation's Flag : Rank : 3 Main Job : Beastmaster Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : None Registration date : 2007-09-04
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:45 pm | |
| I'm sorry I never noticed I think I had more than one tab open, Sorry!. I had just finished the mother of all shifts and was half asleep. Once again sorry. Time for coffee methinks. | |
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Dionys Inspirer of Madness
Number of posts : 1373 Age : 48 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Hume Main Job : Samurai Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 65 ZM : 16 ~ The Celestial Nexus PM : 8-3 ~ When Angels Fall AM : 22 ~ Shield of Diplomacy WotG : 15 ~ Crossroads of Time Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:24 pm | |
| nothing to apologize for, galen, just giving you shit. ^^ | |
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Lunaura Linkshell Leader
Number of posts : 1097 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 8 Race : Elvaan Main Job : White Mage Sub Job : Summoner Main Craft : Cooking ZM : 7 ~ The Chamber of Oracles PM : 4-3 ~ The Secrets of Worship AM : 23 ~ Social Graces WotG : 4 ~ The Queen of the Dance Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:18 pm | |
| Time for sleep not coffee.. silly boys left alone.. probablly eats peanut butter cups for breakfast too. | |
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Roddick Tough
Number of posts : 458 Age : 49 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 13 ~ Lost Kingdom WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-14
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:16 pm | |
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Nosveratu Tough
Number of posts : 369 Age : 43 Nation's Flag : Rank : 7 Race : Hume Main Job : Paladin Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : None ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 2-2 ~ The Lost City AM : 3 ~ President Salaheem WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:33 am | |
| and whats wrong with reese' pb cups? lol | |
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Lunaura Linkshell Leader
Number of posts : 1097 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 8 Race : Elvaan Main Job : White Mage Sub Job : Summoner Main Craft : Cooking ZM : 7 ~ The Chamber of Oracles PM : 4-3 ~ The Secrets of Worship AM : 23 ~ Social Graces WotG : 4 ~ The Queen of the Dance Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:44 am | |
| nothing... I personally am an addict of them.. The ones that were in celebration of Elvis were AWESOME. Banana and peanut butter ones... just not a breakfast food. silly boys. | |
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Rosydiala Even Match
Number of posts : 270 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Black Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Bonecraft Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 14 ~ The Dolphin Crest WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-13
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| I wish you had said that earlier luna, I bought rodd some for early easter, I am almost positive he had some when he got up the other morning... I agree with rodd, but i think they should have changed more to make the job melee. Raise strength, or spells that allow stat increases like bard.. something more to make them more usable on the front lines. Oh, or maybe an ability like scholar where rdm can choose higher magic and lower melee or vice-a-versa. | |
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Lunaura Linkshell Leader
Number of posts : 1097 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 8 Race : Elvaan Main Job : White Mage Sub Job : Summoner Main Craft : Cooking ZM : 7 ~ The Chamber of Oracles PM : 4-3 ~ The Secrets of Worship AM : 23 ~ Social Graces WotG : 4 ~ The Queen of the Dance Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:57 pm | |
| I do wish they had made RDM more the Melee mage they were intended to be from the first games. RDM wasn't meant to be the debuff bitch on the backlines and or back up bitch/healer. I was drawn to RDM as my very first job, but after coming to the horrible realization that you are treated like a cloth wearing, wand carrying magic user it lost alot of appeal for me. Sure a RDM can step up and take alot of places in a party, but one they never get to play is melee. "You are just giving the mob tp" Um.. what are you doing jerk... I think they should give RDM En-ga spells. Give the whole damn pt magic type damage to their weapons and definately boost the melee abilities. RDM rock the socks off just about any other job handling shit solo. | |
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Nosveratu Tough
Number of posts : 369 Age : 43 Nation's Flag : Rank : 7 Race : Hume Main Job : Paladin Sub Job : Warrior Main Craft : None ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 2-2 ~ The Lost City AM : 3 ~ President Salaheem WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:28 pm | |
| with everything a RDM can do, as a RDM if you decide you want to melee, start your own pt, no? if i woulda lvl'd rdm and wanted to melee, no one woulda said shit to me to try and stop me, maybe all this BS is one of the reasons Naughty and i DUO'd our asses to lvl 65, we wanted to learn the MOST out of the jobs, and hell, i'm sure we've done it, ok i may not be the best PLD in a party setup, but its very rare that Naughty can steal hate from me when we duo. i do agree that there should of been a lil more "boosting" of RDM's abilities, yeah the extra EN spells r gonna help there DMG for meleeing, but they should of given them more, considering how VAMP'd up WHM is now. GRANTED a RDM can solo the avatar fights, among other things better then anyother job, but that doesnt mean they should get shafted either. | |
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Lunaura Linkshell Leader
Number of posts : 1097 Age : 44 Nation's Flag : Rank : 8 Race : Elvaan Main Job : White Mage Sub Job : Summoner Main Craft : Cooking ZM : 7 ~ The Chamber of Oracles PM : 4-3 ~ The Secrets of Worship AM : 23 ~ Social Graces WotG : 4 ~ The Queen of the Dance Registration date : 2007-08-22
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:46 pm | |
| I did Duo my rdm with Gunner. I duo ALOT of my jobs just with him.. mainly because I dont play well with other.. well the stupid ones atleast.. (you know the ones that dont think are) I do agree that more people should play their jobs in smaller pts. (Duo or trio) to learn more about their jobs. Nothing like being put to the test with an Oh shit moment to learn more about your job. And as duo in Qufim..at night.. oh shit happens alot.
I think they are just trying to pull people back to certain jobs that havent really been played as much. GL.. lol Unless WHM comes with auto pilot.. TONS of people will still never touch the job. And still many more out there you wished would quit torturing us all together. "Why are we all dead? oops, didn't realize we were pulling."
Even in making your own pt's you will not be spared from the Elitest asses who think they know EVERYTHING there is to know about FFXI. People will talk crap about a melee RDM even if that very RDM is pt leader. (Watched it happen, but luckily didn't experience it.) | |
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Naughtymistress Even Match
Number of posts : 276 Age : 38 Nation's Flag : Rank : 7 Race : Mithra Main Job : Red Mage Main Craft : Clothcraft Main Craft Level : 12 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 3-3 ~ Road Forks AM : 3 ~ President Salaheem WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2008-11-02
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:49 am | |
| i just hope the new En spells are not hard or cost alot to get ^^ | |
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Roddick Tough
Number of posts : 458 Age : 49 Nation's Flag : Rank : 10 Race : Tarutaru Main Job : Red Mage Sub Job : White Mage Main Craft : Cooking Main Craft Level : 34 ZM : 5 ~ Headstone Pilgrimage PM : 1-3 ~ The Mothercrystals AM : 13 ~ Lost Kingdom WotG : 3 ~ Cait Sith Registration date : 2007-12-14
| Subject: Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009) Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:15 am | |
| I don't think they will be al lthat hard to get, the stuff they added in the last update wasn't...recall spells, retrace etc. As far as the soloing thing goes, yeah, I can solo a lot of things now that I am 75 and took the time to level NIN to 75 and get NI, but honestly I still don't know that all the bullshit I had to put up with to get there really makes it worth it. I got so sick of partying and being everything that rdm isn't supposed to be, that I kinda grew to hate the job for awhile. Maybe it's just my aversion to elitist assholes, but part of it still stemmed from not wanting to kill myself over not being able to do everything all at once. Anyway, I guess it doesn't really matter to me too much anymore, being 75 now I can get mega exp doing campaign and not not really have to worry about partying to get merits, but I just wanted to put my 2 cents in again .lol | |
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